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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:50 am 
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Like most newer built houses, my basement floor has several cracks (some hairline, some 3-4mm wide). I think they've stabilized now so I'm looking to get them filled. Ideally I would like them injected to make sure they are water tight rather than just using one of those surface epoxy kits found at HD.

Has anyone had this done? Cost? Reputable contractor?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:01 am 
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Burrcold wrote:
Like most newer built houses, my basement floor has several cracks (some hairline, some 3-4mm wide). I think they've stabilized now so I'm looking to get them filled. Ideally I would like them injected to make sure they are water tight rather than just using one of those surface epoxy kits found at HD.

Has anyone had this done? Cost? Reputable contractor?

Many thanks.


Provided your sump is doing it's job you should not need to worry about those cracks leaking BUT, that does not mean you should not fill them if they bother you.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:35 am 
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Halton Home Inspector wrote:
Burrcold wrote:
Like most newer built houses, my basement floor has several cracks (some hairline, some 3-4mm wide). I think they've stabilized now so I'm looking to get them filled. Ideally I would like them injected to make sure they are water tight rather than just using one of those surface epoxy kits found at HD.

Has anyone had this done? Cost? Reputable contractor?

Many thanks.


Provided your sump is doing it's job you should not need to worry about those cracks leaking BUT, that does not mean you should not fill them if they bother you.

Yeah they're not leaking, but I do think they are not helping the overall moisture issues of basements. I run a dehumidifier in the summer and it pretty much has to run 24/7 or the relative humidity will creep up around 60% in the basement (subsequently causing higher humidity levels in the rest of the house). Sealing the cracks also helps with little insects from coming up through the slab.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:38 am 
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Burrcold wrote:
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Burrcold wrote:
Like most newer built houses, my basement floor has several cracks (some hairline, some 3-4mm wide). I think they've stabilized now so I'm looking to get them filled. Ideally I would like them injected to make sure they are water tight rather than just using one of those surface epoxy kits found at HD.

Has anyone had this done? Cost? Reputable contractor?

Many thanks.


Provided your sump is doing it's job you should not need to worry about those cracks leaking BUT, that does not mean you should not fill them if they bother you.

Yeah they're not leaking, but I do think they are not helping the overall moisture issues of basements. I run a dehumidifier in the summer and it pretty much has to run 24/7 or the relative humidity will creep up around 60% in the basement (subsequently causing higher humidity levels in the rest of the house). Sealing the cracks also helps with little insects from coming up through the slab.


Have you / or do you close the Air Return in the basement. If so you need to open it. Other than removing heat from your home, the AC is also a giant dehumidifier and if your Air Return in the basement is closed then it can not remove humidity from that area.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:56 am 
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My main return stays open all year, and I keep 2 of 4 registers open to balance.


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Burrcold wrote:
My main return stays open all year, and I keep 2 of 4 registers open to balance.


:arrow: Perfect

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Mattamy rule of thumb is (or was) if you can fit a quarter in the crack, then it needs to be filled. If thinner then a quarter it' is fine.


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justagirl wrote:
Mattamy rule of thumb is (or was) if you can fit a quarter in the crack, then it needs to be filled. If thinner then a quarter it' is fine.

Well it's never a Mattamy decision to make, it's a Tarion warranty issue. Tarion guideline for repair under warranty is 6mm+.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:55 pm 
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4mm
http://www.tarion.com/Warranty-Protecti ... r%20cracks

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HaltonPeelHomeInspection wrote:
4mm
http://www.tarion.com/Warranty-Protecti ... r%20cracks

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Thanks! I just remeasured the cracks and most are 1-1.5mm with one larger one at 2mm. Maybe I should just live with them, seeing as though Tarion wouldn't have considered them an issue even if I was within the warranty period.


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No problem. You may want to consider just sealing them with grey caulk. That will reduce Radon entry into the basement, not that we're in a high Radon area anyway.

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HaltonPeelHomeInspection wrote:
No problem. You may want to consider just sealing them with grey caulk. That will reduce Radon entry into the basement, not that we're in a high Radon area anyway.

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I think that's exactly what I'm going to do. The minimal amount of radon, moisture, and bugs will be reduced and it will look a lot nicer I suppose.


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Do bugs really come through 2mm cracks in the concrete floor? Are there really so many insects living down in 6+ feet of clay?

I think your insect infestation is likely coming from somewhere else.

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I think your insect infestation is likely coming from somewhere else.


:arrow: Maybe from the sump pit. Some are pretty nasty.

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Hodor wrote:
Do bugs really come through 2mm cracks in the concrete floor? Are there really so many insects living down in 6+ feet of clay?

I think your insect infestation is likely coming from somewhere else.

It's not an infestation. Just normal small bugs that every basement finds (spiders, etc.). They could be coming from anywhere really, but often you will find small voids under the slab, so yes it's entirely possible for small bugs to come up through.


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