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 Post subject: SNC-Lavelin
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:52 am 
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The SNC-Lavalin scandal and ensuing coverup have all the markings of a great political takedown. The original bombshell report in The Globe and Mail last Thursday was just the start.

That report cited sources who claimed former justice minister Jody Wilson-Raybould was demoted and shuffled from that role because she refused to intervene to stop the public prosecution of the Liberal-connected Quebec multinational. She was allegedly pressured by the PMO, but refused to do its dirty work.

The story has taken many twists and turns since.

Trudeau originally denied the report and insisted he never directed Wilson-Raybould to intervene, stating, essentially, that there’s nothing to see here.

“In our system of government, of course, (Wilson-Raybould’s) presence in cabinet should actually speak for itself,” said Trudeau on Monday evening.

On Tuesday morning, Wilson-Raybould abruptly resigned from cabinet.

In her resignation letter, she informed Canadians that she had retained one of Canada’s top lawyers to advise her on how she could tell her side of the story, despite Trudeau’s insistence on maintaining solicitor-client privilege.

When former prime minister Stephen Harper’s office was caught up in a scandal involving housing expenses from Conservative Senator Mike Duffy, Harper immediately waived this privilege to allow for an open and transparent investigation.

Trudeau offered no such gesture.

Instead, he hit back, with a combative news conference where he all but called Wilson-Raybould a liar. He once again gave his evolving side of the story, claiming she had been “inconsistent” with him all while condescendingly referring to the former attorney general as “Jody” while calling her male colleagues by their last names and titles.

Things went from bad to worse for the Trudeau government on Wednesday when members of Parliament held an emergency meeting of the Justice Committee to launch an investigation into what really happened.

The six Liberal MPs on the committee practically transformed themselves into agents of the PMO, blocking calls to have key witnesses testify — including Wilson-Raybould and top PMO officials — while name-calling opposition MPs and insisting on studying a law that the Liberals slipped into the last omnibus bill to protect SNC-Lavalin rather than investigating the scandal itself.

By mid-week, it was clear that the Trudeau government was in panic mode. Trudeau could barely make it through a news conference without saying something stupid, forgetting his lines, or simply looking like a deer in the headlights.

On Thursday, Liberal MP Anthony Housefather did the media rounds and claimed that Wilson-Raybould was demoted from her position because she doesn’t speak French (he later apologized and admitted it wasn’t true). Then, on Friday, Trudeau claimed that if Liberal MP Scott Brison had not resigned, Wilson-Raybould would still be attorney general.

The coverup is often worse than the crime, and, in this case, the possible crime itself is likely the worst allegation of political corruption and obstruction of justice in recent Canadian history.

Justin Trudeau once campaigned on bringing openness and transparency to Ottawa.

Rather than upholding this promise and letting the truth come out — allowing Wilson-Raybould to speak publicly, initiating an investigation through a parliamentary committee and offering straight answers rather than rehearsed lines and an ever-evolving storyline — it seems the federal Liberals are back to their old ways.

Far from the Sunny Ways PM that promised to do things differently, Trudeau is looking more and more like the corrupt leader of a Montreal Old Boys Club that operates under its own set of rules.

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The SNC-Lavalin scandal and ensuing coverup have all the markings of a great political takedown. The original bombshell report in The Globe and Mail last Thursday was just the start.

That report cited sources who claimed former justice minister Jody Wilson-Raybould was demoted and shuffled from that role because she refused to intervene to stop the public prosecution of the Liberal-connected Quebec multinational. She was allegedly pressured by the PMO, but refused to do its dirty work.

The story has taken many twists and turns since.

Trudeau originally denied the report and insisted he never directed Wilson-Raybould to intervene, stating, essentially, that there’s nothing to see here.

“In our system of government, of course, (Wilson-Raybould’s) presence in cabinet should actually speak for itself,” said Trudeau on Monday evening.

On Tuesday morning, Wilson-Raybould abruptly resigned from cabinet.

In her resignation letter, she informed Canadians that she had retained one of Canada’s top lawyers to advise her on how she could tell her side of the story, despite Trudeau’s insistence on maintaining solicitor-client privilege.

When former prime minister Stephen Harper’s office was caught up in a scandal involving housing expenses from Conservative Senator Mike Duffy, Harper immediately waived this privilege to allow for an open and transparent investigation.

Trudeau offered no such gesture.

Instead, he hit back, with a combative news conference where he all but called Wilson-Raybould a liar. He once again gave his evolving side of the story, claiming she had been “inconsistent” with him all while condescendingly referring to the former attorney general as “Jody” while calling her male colleagues by their last names and titles.

Things went from bad to worse for the Trudeau government on Wednesday when members of Parliament held an emergency meeting of the Justice Committee to launch an investigation into what really happened.

The six Liberal MPs on the committee practically transformed themselves into agents of the PMO, blocking calls to have key witnesses testify — including Wilson-Raybould and top PMO officials — while name-calling opposition MPs and insisting on studying a law that the Liberals slipped into the last omnibus bill to protect SNC-Lavalin rather than investigating the scandal itself.

By mid-week, it was clear that the Trudeau government was in panic mode. Trudeau could barely make it through a news conference without saying something stupid, forgetting his lines, or simply looking like a deer in the headlights.

On Thursday, Liberal MP Anthony Housefather did the media rounds and claimed that Wilson-Raybould was demoted from her position because she doesn’t speak French (he later apologized and admitted it wasn’t true). Then, on Friday, Trudeau claimed that if Liberal MP Scott Brison had not resigned, Wilson-Raybould would still be attorney general.

The coverup is often worse than the crime, and, in this case, the possible crime itself is likely the worst allegation of political corruption and obstruction of justice in recent Canadian history.

Justin Trudeau once campaigned on bringing openness and transparency to Ottawa.

Rather than upholding this promise and letting the truth come out — allowing Wilson-Raybould to speak publicly, initiating an investigation through a parliamentary committee and offering straight answers rather than rehearsed lines and an ever-evolving storyline — it seems the federal Liberals are back to their old ways.

Far from the Sunny Ways PM that promised to do things differently, Trudeau is looking more and more like the corrupt leader of a Montreal Old Boys Club that operates under its own set of rules.

- Candice Malcolm, The Toronto Sun
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... nc-lavalin

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Canada has the dubious honour of being home to the largest number of firms on a World Bank blacklist of corrupt companies.

Virtually all of that can be attributed to one Canadian company — SNC Lavalin, the construction and engineering giant whose name is becoming a paragon of Canadian corruption.

Of the more than 600 companies now listed as barred from doing business with the World Bank over corruption, 117 are Canadian, the most of any one country. And of those, 115 represent SNC-Lavalin and its subsidiaries, the Financial Post reports.

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This should easily torpedo T2, by rights he should not survive this. I'm presuming he's as guilty as sin btw, it just smells like it.

But given his base and the priorities they vote on, this may not be enough. A campaign of "Canadian Camelot" "Canada's Back" "Feelings-over-facts" horseshit got him elected, are they really willing to ignore this much character revelation and vote for him again? Let's hope for some well-executed campaigning out of his opponents to make sure this lands squarely on top of him like it should, if they screw this up Butts et al will find a way to slide him right back in there. This Lavelin thing isn't even all they've got to work with, it's just the most recent. Scheer has so much material to work with It's not even funny.

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This government is horrendous at handling scandals and this one is only their latest screw up. I'd love to know more about their inner workings and how they plan out strategies. It would be a great case study in what not to do. The inner leadership has also managed to alienate a number of important party members which is going to bite them in the ass.

I'm really interested in hearing what she has to say. The whole "client-attorney privilege" argument she's using for staying quiet doesn't quite seem right because it's a political issue that's she staying quiet about, not a legal one. If the story can keep traction it will impact the election but it seems too far out to mean much.

I think people could get behind the idea that they were trying to prevent a Canadian company from going bankrupt but as a couple of you have pointed out this company is as slimy as a 1% real estate agency. They're not a company we should want to be associated with us. It sucks for the people who work there but maybe it's for the best if they fold.


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Groundbreaking wrote:
I'm really interested in hearing what she has to say. The whole "client-attorney privilege" argument she's using for staying quiet doesn't quite seem right because it's a political issue that's she staying quiet about, not a legal one. If the story can keep traction it will impact the election but it seems too far out to mean much.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6HyW0tTv8Uc

I found this ^^ interview helpful, especially the hair-splitty definition of this mysterious privilege: to whom does it apply, who is the client? We should find out this week, and I can see this spiralling on for quite a while.

Remember the Mike Duffy scandal for a paltry $90k? Man those were the days, I miss "problems" like that.

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I’m starting to think this government might not be as transparent as I was led to believe. I bet KF095 has a hot take on this one.

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The Dauphin should have a funtastic day tomorrow.

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‘Nervous’ Liberal MPs awaiting Wilson-Raybould’s testimony, as SNC-Lavalin controversy causes fissures in party, say Grits and pundits

'I just want the truth to come out’ on the SNC-Lavalin controversy, says Liberal MP Wayne Long.

https://www.hilltimes.com/2019/02/25/ne ... its/190028

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I guess we'll find out tomorrow but I'm not expecting anything earth shattering. The top brass in the Liberals don't seem too concerned. They could have also done much more to prevent her from speaking and/or pre-spin things but they haven't. Plus they've had plenty of opportunity to massage her back into the fold, probably offering her another good cabinet appointment next shuffle.

Mike Duffy was another poorly handled "scandal". He was thrown under the bus by his boss for breaking rules that, as it turns out, didn't really exist. In that case, another insider fell on his sword for the PM just like Gerry Butt has.

Now it looks like Doug Ford and his pimped out mini-van will be the next scandal to sink our teeth in. Who needs Russian pee-pee tapes and porn stars when we got all this!


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I guess we'll find out tomorrow but I'm not expecting anything earth shattering.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SWMjh2phAuY

He's finished, or should be. This should not be survivable. But we'll see, it's this little twerp we're talking about after all. He knows how gullible and uncritical his base is, surf's up for some military grade bullshit in the next few months.

As far as corruption goes, I think I'd rather know we are paying for every Senator's cottage and every Premier's popemobile than this creepy stuff.

PS: Rempel rocks, love that lady's style.

At Issue, Hebert and Coyne on point as usual
https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLvntP ... N5vfYCaQEc

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It looks like that for a long time SNC Lavalin has not represented Canadian values around the world. This is likely why they did not qualify for a sweetheart Deferred Prosecution Agreement deal.

Save the receipts - it has now come to light that in 2008, SNC Lavalin paid for Gadhafi son's debauchery while he was SNC Lavalins guest to tour our county and that some mighty pricey prostitutes were paid a total of $30,000 to service the thug. $10,000 bucks for one night in Vancouver. What ?,,, didn't the guy have his own money for hookers ?

That's some pretty pricey “companion services”.

"According to court testimony by an RCMP investigator. Transactions they wrote in as “companion services” in their expense reports would cost between $600 and $7,500 each. Close to $10,000 in services went to a single escort service in Vancouver."

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/snc-lavalin-paid-for-gadhafi-sons-debauchery-while-he-was-in-canada-report

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Let's hope we get an inquiry and that rat-faced weasel Butts is held accountable. This isn't the first flaming ship he's jumped off of either, I had forgotten about his name in the Ontario energy debacle https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/ontario ... -1.3884108

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Let's hope we get an inquiry and that rat-faced weasel Butts is held accountable. This isn't the first flaming ship he's jumped off of either, I had forgotten about his name in the Ontario energy debacle https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/ontario ... -1.3884108


Considering that this is a CBC article that is pretty shocking.

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Her testimony was definitely more shocking than I would have guessed. She threw more than a couple of hand grenades including implicating Trudeau directly and drawing a clear line from her demotion to the fact that she refused to intervene in the SNC case.

I was impressed with Raitt's questioning of her. I can see why she's becoming more influential in the Conservative Party. She managed to ask questions that made the Liberals look bad while not seeming to bully Wilson.

I think it's a bit premature to calling Trudeau dead just yet. This is playing very differently in Quebec and most don't seem to understand what the big deal is. They've lost enough head offices over the years so they seem a little more sympathetic to what the government did. Trudeau also has too much power and influence in the party. If he loses the next election this will hurt him when it comes to retaining party leadership.

It's also going to be tough to go at the legal angle because even she describes it as "inappropriate pressure" but not illegal. It's shady as sh*t but it's hard to make an argument that it was illegal.

The Liberals need to come up with a plan on how to deal with this and her. They're fumbling through another scandal.


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" SNC-Lavalin faces charges of fraud and corruption in connection with nearly $48 million in payments made to Libyan government officials between 2001 and 2011. If convicted, the company could be blocked from competing for federal government contracts for a decade. "
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudea ... -1.5014271

Good thing Canadian government officials aren't for sale.


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