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Toronto Public Health - COVID Deaths are Inflated
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Author:  Mr.Peppermint [ Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Toronto Public Health - COVID Deaths are Inflated
Straight from the horses mouth
Not only is the "second wave" still non existent to this point (very few deaths and much lower fatality percent than summer) but the Public Health Unit admitted the numbers have even been inflated


Read for yourself:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1275888390060285967

Q: @TOPublicHealth I'd like to understand why you are instructing the media to record any death as a COVID death even if the death was caused by unrelated conditions/reasons according to doctors.

A: @TOPublicHealth Individuals who have died with COVID-19, but not as a result of COVID-19 are included in the case counts for COVID-19 deaths in Toronto.

Q: @TOPublicHealth Does this not serve to mislead the public regarding how deadly (or not) COVID is? If I had cancer but died in a car accident did I die of cancer?

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Author:  Halton Home Inspector [ Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Toronto Public Health - COVID Deaths are Inflated
If only we listened to Taiwan :? when they were screaming warnings to the world :?

Imagine, in a small country with 24 million people and many multi generational families, they have only 543 cases and 7 deaths.

No doubt that being an island nation helps but there is way more to it than that.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/09/21/taiwan-coronavirus-covid-19-post-pandemic-life-hancocks-pkg-intl-hnk-vpx.cnn

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/15/how-taiwan-beat-the-coronavirus.html
Author:  Groundbreaking [ Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Toronto Public Health - COVID Deaths are Inflated
Taiwan has a lot of experience not trusting anything that comes out of Mainland China so they also had that head start. We can learn a lot of things from Taiwan not just about Covid.
Author:  Mr.Peppermint [ Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Toronto Public Health - COVID Deaths are Inflated
Halton Home Inspector wrote:
If only we listened to Taiwan :? when they were screaming warnings to the world :?

Ironically Trump wanted to close the borders but people screamed racism
If Trump had done what Taiwan did there would be no outbreak

Taiwan and China do not allow random travel between their countries due to political issues

Taiwan bans Chinese on Feb 4th
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/ ... als-china/

Trump discusses banning all Chinese on Jan 31st and executive order passed Feb 2nd
Protests ensue
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential ... ronavirus/

If only Trudeau had listened to Trump and not Tam

Tam says stop stigmatizing those poor Chinese
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-s- ... -1.4790762
Author:  Groundbreaking [ Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Toronto Public Health - COVID Deaths are Inflated
US infections came from Europe, not China. Early Canadian infections came from the US, especially Vegas it would seem.
Author:  Mr.Peppermint [ Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Toronto Public Health - COVID Deaths are Inflated
Groundbreaking wrote:
US infections came from Europe, not China. Early Canadian infections came from the US, especially Vegas it would seem.

In Canada?
Majority were from cruise ships in beginning

Then Quebec spring break opened the floodgates (prob as many Vegas as Florida or Texas or Mexico cases)
Author:  Halton Home Inspector [ Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Toronto Public Health - COVID Deaths are Inflated
Wow !! Taiwan hits 200 days without one locally transmitted covid case. The envy of the world. Social attitudes are different there. The conspiracy deniers and anti maskers that plague us and other countries do not exist in Taiwan. As well, Taiwan took action while the WHO was blubbering on nonsense to the rest of the world.
Author:  Mr.Peppermint [ Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Toronto Public Health - COVID Deaths are Inflated
Halton Home Inspector wrote:
Wow !! Taiwan hits 200 days without one locally transmitted covid case. The envy of the world. Social attitudes are different there. The conspiracy deniers and anti maskers that plague us and other countries do not exist in Taiwan. As well, Taiwan took action while the WHO was blubbering on nonsense to the rest of the world.

Taiwan has no cases because their government is at war with China
If we banned all Chinese immigration / travel / tourism we would have missed the outbreaks as well


ALSO
WTF are you quoting Taiwan has "200 days without one locally transmitted covid case"???

Oct 28 (yesterday) they had 550 cases
It was a HUGE spike more than double what they had in past week
That IS transmission dude... according to press release ONLY 3 were imported cases (1 from Philippines, 1 from USA, and 1 from Indonesia)

https://www.cdc.gov.tw/En
Author:  Halton Home Inspector [ Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Toronto Public Health - COVID Deaths are Inflated
Oh peps. You behave like the proverbial duct cleaner phone scammer. Everything you just wrote is absolute hogwash. Yes, the communists in China have a ridiculous claim on Taiwan but someone should just stand up and tell them that that ship has sailed. Taiwan has been an independent nation for decades.

I know better than to debate with you so I refer you to Google to confirm what I wrote about Taiwan being clear for 200 days. Besides, it was in the news today and there are copious quantities of articles online for you to fuss over.

BTW. Like usual - the link you posted contradicts your assertion, it refers to the total number of cases in Taiwan over the pandemic which is just over 500, NOT the daily amount of cases.
Author:  Groundbreaking [ Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Toronto Public Health - COVID Deaths are Inflated
Taiwan's (Republic of China) biggest trade partner is Mainland China (People's Republic of China). Massive numbers of people move between the two countries and so does the potential for virus transmission. PRC's tech industry would grind to a halt overnight if it didn't buy all the important components from Taiwan. The PRC has been raising tensions with Taiwan in recent months but it isn't amounting to much.

China's low numbers are more the result of information suppression and very strict limits on people. They have a lot of dodgy numbers like the fact that some provinces are reporting higher than usual numbers of deaths but these aren't listed as covid related.
Author:  Mr.Peppermint [ Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Toronto Public Health - COVID Deaths are Inflated
Halton Home Inspector wrote:
I know better than to debate with you so I refer you to Google to confirm what I wrote about Taiwan being clear for 200 days. Besides, it was in the news today and there are copious quantities of articles online for you to fuss over.

BTW. Like usual - the link you posted contradicts your assertion, it refers to the total number of cases in Taiwan over the pandemic which is just over 500, NOT the daily amount of cases.

I know you are delusional and all but I provided a link to the Taiwan CDC which lists all the outbreaks etc

As a matter of fact quite ironically the day you posted that nonsense they even had a huge spike, bigger than any they had since March

What tabloid trash are you trying to pass off as facts???

Here is the link again to Taiwan for your reading pleasure (you can read right?)

https://www.cdc.gov.tw/En
Author:  Halton Home Inspector [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Toronto Public Health - COVID Deaths are Inflated
No need to be so aggressive and rude all the time peps.

But,,,,,, this is very strange. anyone can see that the link ( that you posted ) shows 555 total confirmed cases and 7 deaths during the entire pandemic.

And, as of yesterday - 1 imported case was confirmed.

Please read the chart.

Confusious say - A vivid imagination can not change what is written :wink:

Be nice peps.
Author:  Mr.Peppermint [ Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Toronto Public Health - COVID Deaths are Inflated
CTV ran a news story about the over inflation of death counts

To date Canada has 10,947 deaths attributed to Covid
Of those, 10,781 were long term care home deaths

Simple math 10947-10781 = 166

So *166* non geriatric non terminally ill people have died of Covid in Canada since they started counting

Seriously why are we wearing masks and locked down again???

The news report goes further on the broken promises by Ontario & Quebec governments to "fix" the broken elder care systems as apparently we are having deja vu all over again. Nothing has changed and all the noise being generated by media did not fix anything for elders as of today new outbreaks are once again ripping through the retired community

https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=2070509
Author:  B&T402 [ Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Toronto Public Health - COVID Deaths are Inflated
Not seeing the 10,781 in that ad-ridden piece Minty, where are you getting that one?
Yes it is exceedingly, suspiciously difficult to wring real information out of these sources.

Mr.Peppermint wrote:
CTV ran a news story about the over inflation of death counts

To date Canada has 10,947 deaths attributed to Covid
Of those, 10,781 were long term care home deaths

Simple math 10947-10781 = 166

So *166* non geriatric non terminally ill people have died of Covid in Canada since they started counting

Seriously why are we wearing masks and locked down again???

The news report goes further on the broken promises by Ontario & Quebec governments to "fix" the broken elder care systems as apparently we are having deja vu all over again. Nothing has changed and all the noise being generated by media did not fix anything for elders as of today new outbreaks are once again ripping through the retired community

https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=2070509
Author:  Mr.Peppermint [ Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Toronto Public Health - COVID Deaths are Inflated
B&T402 wrote:
Not seeing the 10,781 in that ad-ridden piece Minty, where are you getting that one?
Yes it is exceedingly, suspiciously difficult to wring real information out of these sources.

Wow... ok see its stuff like this that feeds the conspiracy theories!
The news article starts at 3:40

They have edited the ENTIRE doctors conversation out (and now inserted a brief message from John Tory that was not in there before!)

They left in the lawsuit part but without context there is no explanation nor justification for the suit


Also on same line of thought; did you notice how Toronto has removed ALL references on their Covid19 page just last week as well?



*edit
Good at least some people have screenshots before it disappeared
But seriously this should make everyone stop and think about how accurate the news reporting on pandemic actually is



HERE is the original UNCENSORED version of the report; someone clipped it on Twitter
https://twitter.com/nolockdowns1/status ... 4373387267

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