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Definitely some gaps in town council here. How can anyone be sidelined by something this big??

If this is going to happen, can part of the fight be to force CN to help accelerate the Tremaine exit? Or add capacity to Tremaine south to help 407 access? I wish there were more details!

Also agreed, planning extensive commercial/residential in this area where they knew (really, they must have known especially after the 2001 attempt) CN had plans for this land eventually was incredibly ignorant and short-sighted on the towns/regions part. Crying about it now just makes them look like they don't know what the hell is going on.

It's not that the town didn't know that CN owned the lands. But after the last fight CN agreed that they would develop the lands as prime rail served industrial instead of the intermodal yard. So they are going back on what they had promised when they asked the town and regional to include the CN lands in the urban plan as rail served industrial.

http://m.insidehalton.com/news-story/29 ... -terminal/

people like me who bought in hawthorne south village are banging their head on the wall .
this is a disaster for us also not forgetting how the existing residential sales prices will be affected .

My guess is traffic will flow around brittania hitting Trafalgar and Tremaine plus James will surely be another exit point to 401 east bound routes. A lot of these containers are heading out to Toronto and as far as Chicago.

I can see brittania being the main cross point here hitting Mattamy's south phase development.... The lower base will probably get used lesser due to winding terrain...

We will see how this project plays out....

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Plans change I guess. Even then, they didn't rule out an intermodal - "When asked by Wards 1 and 3 Councillor Barry Lee if an intermodal is a possibility in the future, Paton said he doesn't foresee it, but couldn't make a 100 per cent commitment that it will never happen"

Only way to completely avoid an Intermodal hub back then was to work aggressively with CN to build out those lands - but apparently they got tired of waiting and have switched back to an intermodal facility.

Another example of very poor planning......


Dream has similar comments to mine (see they posted before I hit submit.) reminds me of the gas plant - our council was patting themselves on the back fro not endorsing a plant at the end of Main street, so instead they went a few kms away in Halton Hills. Reminds me of a smaller town (forget which one now) who didn't want Walmart - so Walmart opened right on the other side of town lines, and had the exact same effect, except no taxes to the town.

I don't understand how you can say the Town and Region haven't supported CN in rezoning the land. The Region and Town included those lands in the ROPA 38 application as employment lands. A final decision on that didn't come until February last year. So unless CN has applied for a zoning change since then, why would the town approve it until all the wrangling over ROPA 38 at the provincial level was taken care of?

http://www.halton.ca/cms/One.aspx?porta ... eId=115808

So are you saying the Town was in fact blindsided by CN and since Feb last year,never considered the possibility of what CN might do with this land?

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Sure.

All of the land east from Tremaine is designated to build anyway. And the "vision" of town is to dump as many "cookie cutters" as possible to have as much tax as possible. It seems...
Milton's east end "business village" project seems to be dead. Now somebody wants to bring jobs here, but town goes NIMBY.
The luck of vision it is.

Ask yourself, what will create more traffic? This place which will provide local jobs or another division of "eat, poop and sleep", where no jobs are?
One truck per minute, vs dozens of cars per minute is the most possible answer.

How about local town officials to have some vision and let CN in, but only if they will pay for Tremaine widening to accommodate trucks and to have CN pay for the exit at 401/Tremaine which is long time overdue.

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I love how everyone complains of cookie cutters, yet no one is willing to buy land and custom make a home... or pay the price of what individualized homes would cost.

Don't like it? move to a place where it's not cookie cutter... oh wait... it's too expensive...

Give the man a hand... its his first post in 4 years that did not have something like "libtard" or "fiberals" or "winnie the lesbian" in it. It was a big step for him!

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Well, our Milton home isn't current Mattamy cookie cutter, it is big enough for large family, located on double wide lot with space for the outdoor pool and this is the view of what is behind of it:



And yes, we could afford larger land in the rural Milton and well, but prefer urban style within low density division.

So who are "everyone" here exactly?

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