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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:57 am 
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Lol- just because your lot is differently sized, you think your home isn't cookie cutter!? You are so amusing. The fact that you used the name "mattamy" in the sentence says that it's the very definition of cookie cutter.

Having a different lot doesn't make for a non-cookie cutter home.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:14 pm 
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I googled "cookie-cutter" http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... kie-cutter.

Forgive me, I have different vision for cookie cutter. Something like Mattamy builds right now or how they used to build decades ago.
Something like single car garage + one door wide only little houses.

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kf095 wrote:
I googled "cookie-cutter" http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... kie-cutter.

Forgive me, I have different vision for cookie cutter. Something like Mattamy builds right now or how they used to build decades ago.
Something like single car garage + one door wide only little houses.


That's just small, not cookie cutter... Any builder in Ontario that's doing multiple homes on a developers land will more than likely be cookie cutter - there might be a handful that will allow you to choose a unique design, but very very unlikely. It's sad to see BC going this way as well - they used to have most sub-divisions as unique, but now, more and more builders are doing the same thing there.

your concept of small houses isn't the builders fault. If the market keeps buying them, they will continue to place smaller homes on smaller lots to make more money - it's just business. It's people's fault for buying them...


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prickly_pete wrote:
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Deep wrote:
I love how everyone complains of cookie cutters, yet no one is willing to buy land and custom make a home... or pay the price of what individualized homes would cost.

Don't like it? move to a place where it's not cookie cutter... oh wait... it's too expensive...


Well, our Milton home isn't current Mattamy cookie cutter, it is big enough for large family, located on double wide lot with space for the outdoor pool and this is the view of what is behind of it:

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And yes, we could afford larger land in the rural Milton and well, but prefer urban style within low density division.

So who are "everyone" here exactly?


I'm one. I live in a cookie cutter home and am quite happy with it. Thanks for asking!


Ditto. Love my cookie cutter.


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Are you saying, I'm not the only one who thinks bad about "liberals" here?


It's not that you think bad about "liberals", it's the way you attack them that's uncomfortable/annoying/off base/etc. Stop using name calling, prejudice, and hateful comments that are not funny and only serve to distract from any argument that you are trying to make. Try to criticize their policies and mistakes with facts and analysis instead.


Thank you, I have to cut on calling them as criminals, yes, since none of them is in the jail.
But if you try to read my posts without paying main attention for how I call them, you'll see what I'm the one who is providing the well known facts as well.

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I am loving this discussion. People want jobs, but specific types. They want industry, but not congestion. There's a place for this facility (which is requiring railroad lines) but near my house isn't where it should be (even though there are railway lines there). We wonder why our local politicians are impotent.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:04 pm 
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kf095 wrote:
jpward6 wrote:
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Please discuss and share your thoughts, concerns, and ideas.


Sure.

All of the land east from Tremaine is designated to build anyway. And the "vision" of town is to dump as many "cookie cutters" as possible to have as much tax as possible. It seems...
Milton's east end "business village" project seems to be dead. Now somebody wants to bring jobs here, but town goes NIMBY.
The luck of vision it is.

Ask yourself, what will create more traffic? This place which will provide local jobs or another division of "eat, poop and sleep", where no jobs are?
One truck per minute, vs dozens of cars per minute is the most possible answer.

How about local town officials to have some vision and let CN in, but only if they will pay for Tremaine widening to accommodate trucks and to have CN pay for the exit at 401/Tremaine which is long time overdue.


Whoa!! wait wait!! Are you saying cookie cutter homes are not ideal in this globalize economy? In my sane opinion having a non cookie cutter zoning would not be good if it's up to the 99% budget.... After all we are unfortunately not as privilege as most 1%...

Have you seen the majority of not so cookie cut homes where roads cuts into your backyard right into your front yard where there's no lawn but simply a straight road or winding road right by your window? I would gladly pick the cookie cutter home unless I'm part of 1%...

Thank god cookie cutter homes were invented, it really did apply the organized look and feel of a decent neighborhood... I AM A PRO COOKIE CUTTER!!! CUT SOME MORE MATTAMY HOMES PLEASE!!!

But of course you may have a vision of a non cookie cutter homes and I respect that, but this is how I see how homes would look like for the rest of us if it ain't cookie cut...

http://www.greenhomebuilding.com/weblog/guna6.jpg


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Mariana wrote:
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Whoa!! wait wait!! Are you saying cookie cutter homes are not ideal in this globalize economy? In my sane opinion having a non cookie cutter zoning would not be good if it's up to the 99% budget.... After all we are unfortunately not as privilege as most 1%...

Have you seen the majority of not so cookie cut homes where roads cuts into your backyard right into your front yard where there's no lawn but simply a straight road or winding road right by your window? I would gladly pick the cookie cutter home unless I'm part of 1%...

Thank god cookie cutter homes were invented, it really did apply the organized look and feel of a decent neighborhood... I AM A PRO COOKIE CUTTER!!! CUT SOME MORE MATTAMY HOMES PLEASE!!!

But of course you may have a vision of a non cookie cutter homes and I respect that, but this is how I see how homes would look like for the rest of us if it ain't cookie cut...

http://www.greenhomebuilding.com/weblog/guna6.jpg


No. This is not what I was saying at all. I said - town have enough land in the Tremaine-JSP corridor (south) to build a lot of new subdivisions. Check plans available at milton.ca.
But.
This particular site which is close to train tracks and regional dumpster, is better to have some local jobs, IMO.
It is common sense which is still exists in some other places, where they don't build residential areas at the train tracks and major highways proximities, but industrial areas.

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I think part of the argument is that while this location will create SOME jobs, it's not in proportion with the size of operation that it will be. I don't know what the numbers are, but Zeeshan Hamid has made this statement and likely has more insight.


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CN building intermodal terminal in Milton, Ontario
$250-million intermodal and logistics hub will be adjacent to its main line in the Town of Milton

http://www.mmdonline.com/dc-and-warehou ... io-139648/


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kf095 wrote:
Mariana wrote:
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Whoa!! wait wait!! Are you saying cookie cutter homes are not ideal in this globalize economy? In my sane opinion having a non cookie cutter zoning would not be good if it's up to the 99% budget.... After all we are unfortunately not as privilege as most 1%...

Have you seen the majority of not so cookie cut homes where roads cuts into your backyard right into your front yard where there's no lawn but simply a straight road or winding road right by your window? I would gladly pick the cookie cutter home unless I'm part of 1%...

Thank god cookie cutter homes were invented, it really did apply the organized look and feel of a decent neighborhood... I AM A PRO COOKIE CUTTER!!! CUT SOME MORE MATTAMY HOMES PLEASE!!!

But of course you may have a vision of a non cookie cutter homes and I respect that, but this is how I see how homes would look like for the rest of us if it ain't cookie cut...

http://www.greenhomebuilding.com/weblog/guna6.jpg


No. This is not what I was saying at all. I said - town have enough land in the Tremain-JSP corridor (south) to build a lot of new subdivisions. Check plans available at milton.ca.
But.
This particular site which is close to train tracks and regional dumpster, is better to have some local jobs, IMO.
It is common sense which is still exists in some other places, where they don't build residential areas at the train tracks and major highways proximities, but industrial areas.


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miltondude007 wrote:
what about real estate prices for curent homes near tracks ? and the resale prospect for the hawthorne south phase ?


It's already across from the dump, don't know how much worse it could get. Surprised anyone wants to live there tbh. I'm near Dymott/Savoline and it smells bad enough some days, can't imagine being closer.


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thenay wrote:
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what about real estate prices for curent homes near tracks ? and the resale prospect for the hawthorne south phase ?


It's already across from the dump, don't know how much worse it could get. Surprised anyone wants to live there tbh. I'm near Dymott/Savoline and it smells bad enough some days, can't imagine being closer.


I'm not the only one who is capable of reading maps here!

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from what i can see the only issue here will be the truck traffic and perhaps the property values surrounding the area. I'm not sure if any developers have sold anything yet in that area, those people would def be upset.

what power does the town/region have to restrict truck traffic to certain times and roads? This would be a possible way of sticking it to them. No trucks after 6pm on any roads heading north through town etc.

anyone know?


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thenay wrote:
miltondude007 wrote:
what about real estate prices for curent homes near tracks ? and the resale prospect for the hawthorne south phase ?


It's already across from the dump, don't know how much worse it could get. Surprised anyone wants to live there tbh. I'm near Dymott/Savoline and it smells bad enough some days, can't imagine being closer.



Correct me if I'm wrong but the square block between James Snow - Tremaine and Main St - Louis St Laurent are the only sweet spot in the area... If you are outside of that zone then it may not be as pretty.... Just my 2cents


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