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 Post subject: Fall of The Berlin Wall
PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:33 am 
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Great day in history!

https://www.google.com/doodles/25th-ann ... erlin-wall


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:47 pm 
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MARILYN wrote:


Sure is. I was there 3 months before the wall came down. What an experience. :)


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 1:58 pm 
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Some 8,000 helium balloons have been released into the night sky over Germany's capital at the culmination of events to mark the 25th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall. I am sure it must have been a great experience to feel all the love, and forgiveness at these special moment


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:34 pm 
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justagirl wrote:
Some 8,000 helium balloons have been released into the night sky over Germany's capital at the culmination of events to mark the 25th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall.

I wonder how many birds and small animals will be killed by the remnants of these helium balloons. A great moment to remember and celebrate (I toured Berlin some years ago and explored Check Point Charlie and remnants of the wall, a humbling experience), but could they not have used a more eco friendly way to celebrate?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:25 pm 
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hopefully next to fall is the Korean wall. many families have been torn apart for decades.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:38 pm 
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...or the Great Wall of Milton.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:15 pm 
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The thing to remember about the fall of the Berlin wall is that it was more of a symbolic than substantive event.
The fall of communism was more complicated.

It basically began when Soviet Union signaled a non-interventionist policy towards the Eastern Bloc nations,
and was the result of much earlier stagnation/failure of centrally planned economies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1989

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:38 am 
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Why 8000 baloons? I always thought 99 luft ones was ample.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:32 pm 
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If only Palestine and Korea come next.


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Nicosia, the capital city of Cyprus is to this day the only divided capital in the world.


http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1014667


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Found this interesting take on it a few days ago....
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/daniel-ten ... 23308.html


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redrider wrote:
Found this interesting take on it a few days ago....
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/daniel-ten ... 23308.html


Ok, lots of misconceptions in that article, so lets mention a few:

The socialism/communism of Eastern Europe was very quickly replaced by western style socialism/stateism combined with aggressive crony capitalism(its degree dependent on the country).

The Great Depression was caused by government (Federal Reserve excessively constraining the monetary supply).
Ironically capitalism was erroneously blamed which paved the way for introduction of socialism.

Banking problems in 2oo8 were caused by crony capitalism and government dictating that banks give out loans to poor unqualified people.


True capitalism existed in the 19th century and early 20th century, a time of incredible development and improvement in people's standard of living.
We in the west are still benefiting from that time period, while constantly and incorrectly vilifying it.

Example:
When we talk about child labor laws we must compare the state of the children not to our own comfortable developed economies but rather to the time before capitalism and the industrial revolution.
The conditions prior to industrialization were very harsh where children frequently starved and died of diseases.

PS:
Big business is scared of competition not government.
Government they easily manipulate.

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